Monday, September 19, 2005

A little Note on Katrina relief

Right now, my Katrina thoughts are still a poorly organized, warm-core system in the mid-Atlantic. But, here's something from today's Note:

Democrats still have the same quality of leadership and political acumen from Leaders Pelosi and Reid (and Chairman Dean) and the same number of positive, clear agenda items to offer the American people.

Nearly every Democrat in Congress is still on the merits in favor of not just stopping the extension of some of the Bush tax cuts, but is in favor of rolling many others back — but they are still afraid to say so and unable to make their case, despite the fact that polls (continue to) show public opinion on their side.


Blogger Bassizzzt said...

You're joking about the leadership part on behalf of the Democratic Party, aren't you? Because I laughed when I read this. Pelosi? Dean? Not being faecetious or anything here; I am quite serious.

What poll shows public opinion leaning toward the side of the Democrats? If this is true, then they will win the election in 2008. Let's see what happens - let's keep a track on the polls then, and we'll see how accurate they are!

11:59 AM  
Blogger copy editor said...

That quip comes from ABC's The Note, and yes it is mockery of the Dem leadership. Mockery they deserve. As for the polls, I saw one this weekend saying that either diverted Iraq revenue (45 %) or taxes (25 %) should be used fund Katrina relief. Most every poll I have seen since the middle of the Iraq war, since 2004, calls for an increase in taxes -- actually, repealing Bush's cuts.

The Dems are failures when it comes to producing a positive agenda. It's like they are scared. I feel like a Whig in 1850... :-/

12:08 PM  
Blogger Bassizzzt said...


Where do you sit politically? Please take no offense to me asking and you have the right to refuse to answer.

But it's not just the Democrats.

3:09 PM  
Blogger Bassizzzt said...

"The Dems are failures when it comes to producing a positive agenda. It's like they are scared."

But they're not scared to criticize the current agenda.

Whatever happened to so-called progressivism?

I blame the Democratic failures on their lack of leadership and decision to adopt the Liberal agenda.

3:11 PM  
Blogger zen said...

I happen to agree with adopting a more liberal agenda. If you were to list the issues out and poll each one, you'd find that most people lean liberal on the issues.

It's perception and word game spin that the Dems do so lousy with. Credit the right wing smear machine. Is it time for a party split? maybe. But it will never happen. Dems are always made up of various factions and find complete unity very elusive. Perhaps the anti-Bush drumbeat is what is keeping some semblance of party unity. Unquestionably they need more than that to be successful. With the piss poor performance of Bush, Dems need to step up.

EC: did you catch the Note bit about Rove's "wide-ranging applicable experience is helping to oversee the Katrina response" What a joke.

3:54 PM  
Blogger copy editor said...

Bassizzzt, I am a Democrat -- but a disenchanted one. I backed Clark and think John Kerry is a stooge.

I think some liberally inspired policies could be good for the country, and so is a vocal and positive opposition. Big government in the LBJ-Germany models do not work. But, we have to be careful that personal accounts such as Bush's do not to foster the same economic injustices we see so clearly after Katrina. School vouchers will not help the very poor if they have no way to get the kids to school... Or if the vouchers do not cover the entirety of a good, private education. The problems are complex and require a number of different approaches. I want to write more about this tonight.

Zen, I agree. That Note comment puzzled me a little. Sometimes they do not explain themselves that well. Though, I love when they taunt Rush.

Carlos Watson made the point that Obama has experience at organizing city commissions.

5:10 PM  
Blogger Bassizzzt said...

Zen, you are absolutely correct about most of what you're saying - esp. about the part that the Democrats need to step up.

Sad thing is, they can't do it with Dean at the helm. How come we never even heard of Dean before the election? Obama seems to be the rising star in the Democratic leadership these days, IMO.

Copy editor: I understand your disenchantment. There was a time when I actually respected the Democratic Party, but that was many, many years ago when I used to live in Detroit.

I grew up in a Democratic household; our neighbors were all hippies and I was all for the peace movement and hated what Vietnam did to my neighbors (they all lost sons there).

I was a huge fan of the music back then and was into Iron Butterfly and bands like Uriah Heep (still am)!!

My parents backed the Labour Party when we lived in the UK and when we moved to the states my mother worked for a man named Jackie Presser with the unions (she was shop steward where she worked).

Being in Detroit one would think I'd turn out to be a good Democrat; that all changed when I joined the Navy at 20 and watched how bad a president really can be (Carter the peanut farmer and the failed hostage rescue attempt).

Then came the Reagan years, and I realized where my heart was politically and it's been that way ever since.

11:55 PM  
Blogger copy editor said...

It's always interesting to read about the political evolution of someone.

The nice aspect to American politics is that your opinions can shift depending on leaders and policies. We're not quite optimates or populares.

9:51 AM  

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